survey - 'japanese too stressed for sex'

topic posted Thu, March 22, 2007 - 10:46 PM by  ~.o0o.~
'Bad news for the nation's plunging birth rate, expert says'

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17619467/

AP story....

"TOKYO - The secret behind Japan's plunging birth rate? A record 39.7 percent of Japanese citizens ages 16-49 have not had sex for over a month —up 5 percentage points from two years ago — according to a survey published this week by the Japan Family Planning Association."

My S.O. (from Japan) has told me that there are two main reasons for the declining birthrate

1. too expensive to have kids
2. people are working too hard to enjoy that part of life... (sex. and family.)...

sad, sad. where will this country be in 20, 30 or even 50 years?

well, when i think about it, where will *everyone* be that far down the road? i don't see a 'miracle' cure for transforming economies based on never-ending growth (china, us, etc.) or fixing environmental issues.... maybe this is natural selection at work so those children won't live in a harsh world? just speculation here.

I'll leave further discussion to this tribe...
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  • Re: survey - 'japanese too stressed for sex'

    Fri, March 23, 2007 - 1:02 AM
    really could someone explain to me how this will really change the economy...what, we'll have like 8 train station attendants waiting to respond to a drunk salaryman call instead of 13?
    • changed economy

      Fri, March 23, 2007 - 7:34 PM
      here are some changes for ya - higher consumption tax, (was 3% now 5% with plans to pop it up to 7% soon and then 10% OUCH!!! I live off supporters of my art), plus higher national, prefectural, and city income taxes, in addition to the rising cost of national health insurance and pension fees with less benefits, more "gapei" = small towns and villages rural communities being spoofed into incorporating into larger city municipality blocks, more street lights in the country= less stars to see, hey, where did the milkyway go? a lot more cost cutting and degrading of social services, education, higher water bills, just to name a few but I know there`s more, help me out anyone!

      and yes, a wee less train station attendants, salary-men both sober & drunk, a few less english teachers and maybe a few more artists living here starting to teach english.

      Hopefully the human tribe will not be dumped down to anything like in the movie "idiocracy" or segregating and sterile like in "Children of Men".....or will we? and I do hope that, I do not have to teach english to support my art, not in this lifetime at least.

      help me out J, what is your S.O. Surrendering Officer? where BU@?
  • Re: survey - 'japanese too stressed for sex'

    Mon, March 26, 2007 - 8:56 PM
    I believe this story is between married couples.

    With quite a few good, positive, family-oriented exceptions (and it is important for us to realize that there are plenty of such cases), once they get married they don't have sex between themselves after newly weds' romantic and horny months or years pass, especially if husbands are salary men working corporate jobs. But they do have sex. With who? Outside marriage. Men work until late, but not always. They go out drinking, and there are several ways to get laid. Wives don't just stay home all day all week all month. They don't behave like married women 30 or even 20 years ago. Both men and women utilize their cell phones, internet, and other means to meet people for sex.

    "Se-fu-re" = Sex Friend

    In another words, Japanese aren't sexless all that badly. Sexlessness exists in marriage, not in the extramarital realm.

    Economically, the whole Japanese system - employment lives and taxes - just do not allow positive decision making on the part of married couple. If women want to work after they get married, they would face higher tax rate after only making, what $10K in addition to their husbands make, or something like that. Once kids arrive to the household, they have to deal with such an expensive deal to raise them. I don't know if they get tax credits per kid like they do here in the US, but even if there are credits, it probably is too small of a deal that it wouldn't make much of an advantage, if you can call it that way.

    Japanese corporations are just like ancient warlords. Ever since those historic era, they tend to think that a man should be married and be well supported to become a dedicated, hard-working samurai who would die for the cause. It still the same. The result is as soon as a single salary man gets married, they put him to work harder. Here, single men and women are the kind of workforce that companies can use without hearing much about "My wife needs to do this and I need to go with her" or "My husband is doing this and I need to be at home today". In case of Japan, married women pick up virtually all the home-related responsibilities, while their husbands can concentrate on their work at corporations, literally single-mindedly.

    In the meanwhile, Japanese women are getting fed up with the aspect of marriage lives like this. They can live with their parents while they can stash up good savings, so that they can travel abroad, pick up some French boys and make it good, as opposed to living the expected lives of typical housewives. Some Japanese women just get married, play housewives and fuck around during the daytime. Some women do this with good planning ahead, even planning before they meet any marriage candidates. Why? Because, mostly, corporate exempt, full-time workers (salary men) are still relatively stable and secure.

    Also, this head line - "Japanese too stressed for sex" mostly applies for stressed corporate workers and others, meaning mostly men. Women don't have to deal with that kind of work load, and they have pretty healthy sexual drives.

    Just my personal observations...
  • Re: survey - 'japanese too stressed for sex'

    Sun, April 8, 2007 - 9:51 PM
    If what Taro says is true about salarymen and their wives,.I have this entire conundrum solved.
    If men are too stressed to have sex, and the women have active sex lives, perhaps the women are all just getting together and having girly sex.
    Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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      Re: survey - 'japanese too stressed for sex'

      Fri, April 13, 2007 - 4:00 PM
      Yeah I'm with Taro, married or unmarried, I don't buy the "Japanese aren't having sex" BS at all.

      There's sex everywhere in Japan. And if you can't get it with your own efforts, it's still available as prostitution is legal, easily available, and relatively affordable.

      Also, Britt, plenty of establishments geared towards women in Japan as well. If you like "gyaru-o" types, you'd be in heaven I guess :p
      • Re: survey - 'japanese too stressed for sex'

        Mon, April 16, 2007 - 6:36 PM
        yeah I agree. Living in Japan for five years I had more sex than Ive ever had in my life. I dont think the west gets the surface image that Japan presents to the world is far different to the reality. You know that whole 'inside' 'outside' thing. I think Japan is sex saturated on the inside. Its everywhere and I found it one of the most over powering things about living there and I aint no prude.

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